tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post1957757730530692078..comments2023-11-02T01:20:32.436-07:00Comments on The Forbidden Gospels: Who's afraid of the married Jesus?April DeConickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06616757055618151612noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-27347844404829890652022-01-08T00:36:22.686-08:002022-01-08T00:36:22.686-08:00Thank You for the above Information and Nice Blog....Thank You for the above Information and Nice Blog. I have Some information to share about Canada immigration. Nexus Migration is the lading Visa Consultant Company that provides the <a href="https://nexusmigration.com/" rel="nofollow"> best canada immigration consultants in uae</a>.AmaraAhmedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00095867758111430941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-68078483509198949682013-06-19T03:03:11.018-07:002013-06-19T03:03:11.018-07:00UK Marriage Visa is very necessary for the people ...<i><b><a href="http://www.uk-marriagevisa.com/" rel="nofollow">UK Marriage Visa</a></b></i> is very necessary for the people who are getting married in UK.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09134341645920056826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-49083807914509965512013-04-09T23:48:55.598-07:002013-04-09T23:48:55.598-07:00Thank You For providing Information about Uk Marri...Thank You For providing Information about Uk Marriag Visa. i have some Information for those person who want go UK For Marriag. <a href="http://globalmigrate.blogspot.in/" rel="nofollow">Marriag Visa</a>. for More information Visit <br /><br /><br />http://global-migrate.com/uk-marriage-visas.htmlGlobalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635756338462816979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-3955434392259111722013-03-30T05:06:47.320-07:002013-03-30T05:06:47.320-07:00The Marriage UK or Spouse Visa allows a non-EU ind...The <a href="http://imperialvisas.com/marriage%20uk.html" rel="nofollow">Marriage UK</a> or Spouse Visa allows a non-EU individual to Move to the UK and live with their UK Settled Spouse. Not Fulfilling all the Immigration Rules Outlined for The UK Marriage Visa.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398550492339783389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-21128725275660177622013-03-21T05:08:06.959-07:002013-03-21T05:08:06.959-07:00UK wedding Visas is for people that area unit marr...UK wedding Visas is for people that area unit married to or in a very civil Partnership with a Britain subject or Permanent Resident like wedding visa Britain, wedding Britain etc.<br /><br />The UK wedding Visa, conjointly called a mate visa or FLR (M), permits foreign nationals from outside the EEA to settle within the Britain with a husband, wife, or civil partner. The mate of the foreign national should already be settled within the Britain, either as a British national or as a permanent resident.<br />Globalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635756338462816979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-80667742438368654142013-01-05T02:19:50.681-08:002013-01-05T02:19:50.681-08:00UK Marriage Visas, Marriage UK , Marriage visa UK
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He chose it not, Knowing what awaited Him "The Cross" <br />Traditionally the Jewish custom is all about marriage and procreation.. seems very wise on Jesus' behalf not to leave behind a young widow and siblings.<br /><br />You folks are full of IT Just like the Devil!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-83192773783037054552012-09-24T07:32:12.393-07:002012-09-24T07:32:12.393-07:00Hear, hear! I echo Susan Burns' comment. The q...Hear, hear! I echo Susan Burns' comment. The questions April poses are important questions to keep asking if fear of a sexual Jesus is to be confronted and transcended.<br /><br />Perhaps April you could also address any concepts of sacred union and the bridal chamber in the context of Jesus' teachings as a mystic (apocalyptic, i.e., seeing beyond the veil to reveal the true nature of God and humanity). I have a suspicion that the concept of union in the bridal chamber had a real-life component that was more than mere metaphor or allegory (than strictly God's marriage to his bride Israel/the Church). Union of God's male and feminine aspects (yin-yang, anyone? The symbol of the Mogen David itself?) bring wholeness to heaven and the world. As above, so below... This surely was a part of soome Jewish thought, not just Hellenistic Gnosticism. I would love to hear your thoughts on this, April.<br /><br />Thank you so much for your valuable contributions via this blog and your books.<br />lightseekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06735628202935418616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-3485546439337079732012-09-23T13:22:24.559-07:002012-09-23T13:22:24.559-07:00I don't know why they are so afraid but their ...I don't know why they are so afraid but their fear is definitely showing. These questions you ask are monumental. It seems others want you to stick to the question of authenticity. Please,please keep asking these questions. Susan Burnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07504380791551640216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-54092995497886805972012-09-23T07:46:09.232-07:002012-09-23T07:46:09.232-07:00The most natural prior antecedent to which "s...The most natural prior antecedent to which "so" refers is the cited passage in the Gospel of Philip, which is discussed in the previous paragraph. <br /><br />This becomes even more clear when one remembers that the preceding paragraph starts with "If it is authenticated, then we have a second piece of evidence . . ."<br /><br />I will grant you one thing: if someone hasn't paid much attention to the flow of the argument in the entire post, but is hanging on its every word instead, then that someone *could* take the "so" as referencing the immediately preceding two sentences, which read: "In the new fragment, the generic word (shime) is used. It means "woman, wife"." <br /><br />But these two sentences interrupt the flow of the argument, and taking the "so" as a reference to them is incompatible with the argument in the rest of the post. That is in itself a good and sufficient reason to look for another antecedent to which "so" refers.Robert Mathiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09189466855334778278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-27384070174906149872012-09-23T06:37:30.544-07:002012-09-23T06:37:30.544-07:00"So" in "So no doubt about it"..."So" in "So no doubt about it" typically refers to a prior antecedent. And what's prior: "In the new fragment, the generic word (shime) is used. It means 'woman, wife'." At minimum, the post used the new fragment as one of two main(interpreted) texts presented as a tradition. Whether Jesus was married or not is not what I am attempting to comment about here. Rather, I am suggesting that some of the questions about whether the fragment is genuinely ancient writing or modern writing are worth addressing, while the post here, unless I misread, seemed to brush such questions aside, dismissing questioners as misguidedly fearful.Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-89050329186792187862012-09-23T06:09:25.173-07:002012-09-23T06:09:25.173-07:00PS The above-mentioned Gnostic tradition was &quo...PS The above-mentioned Gnostic tradition was "solid," that is, documented, before the new fragment was discovered, and it remains "solid" if the new fragment is a fake. "Solid" does not mean "historically true" in such a context. There are plenty of solidly documented, but provably false traditions out there in the world.<br />Robert Mathiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09189466855334778278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-42002224748322201962012-09-23T06:05:09.513-07:002012-09-23T06:05:09.513-07:00Stephen, the "it" in "no doubt abou...Stephen, the "it" in "no doubt about it" doesn't refer to the fragment or its authenticity, but to what follows, namely, "there is a solid tradition in the ancient world that Jesus was married. The tradition appears to come from the Valentinian Gnostics who envisioned marriage and sex as the greatest of sacred mysteries."Robert Mathiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09189466855334778278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-12519997817687944032012-09-23T03:45:17.215-07:002012-09-23T03:45:17.215-07:00Robert, perhaps reread the words "So no doubt...Robert, perhaps reread the words "So no doubt about it." Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-35900580441385234972012-09-22T17:19:30.588-07:002012-09-22T17:19:30.588-07:00"My question is why did the sexual Jesus beco..."My question is why did the sexual Jesus become the heretical Jesus while the glorification of the celibate male become the dominant orthodox view?"<br /><br />Could it be because the latter was the first century view, giving it a two-century head start on the former, so that it had the advantage of wide acceptance long before the alternative even arose? That would seem to be another possibility worth considering.Jeremy Waleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541372724883172727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-18726840279483520012012-09-22T09:27:09.312-07:002012-09-22T09:27:09.312-07:00I see no claim here about whether the new fragment...I see no claim here about whether the new fragment is a fake or not. <br /><br />What I do see is a claim that the theological stakes here are very high for Christians, and also an awareness of the very real fact that a scholar's own theological positions may and sometimes do -- often unconsciously -- influence his scholarly judgement. <br /><br />This fact is abundantly exemplified by all the scholarly literature about the authenticity of the famous letter on "Secret Mark," apparently written by Clement of Alexandria, which is still very much an open question.<br /><br />Also, long ago I worked on one of the forgeries of Mark Hoffman (The Oath of a Freeman), and I had to read through a good deal of scholarship on forgery in general. It became very clear in the course of this reading that it is much easier for later generations to detect a forgery than it ever is for contemporaries of the forger. So many of the hallmarks of any contemporary forgery are things that we take for granted in our own world, but that succeeding generations may find particularly odd and revealing.<br /><br />This is not to say that one cannot detect a contemporary forgery; often one can, *but not always*. Sometimes the strongest indications of forgery lie hidden in the blind spots that we scholars share with the forger as his contemporaries.<br /><br />Robert Mathiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09189466855334778278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6536854065433425156.post-16459723771954956432012-09-22T07:25:30.257-07:002012-09-22T07:25:30.257-07:00Claiming they are afraid in order to dismiss obser...Claiming they are afraid in order to dismiss observations by numerous scholars who suggest writing on this ms is a modern fake may not be particularly helpful if the goal is to get as close to truth as collegial scholarship allows.Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.com