Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Do you know the origins of this painting?


Do you know where this painting is from? Its date? provenance? Is this depicting the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (the female in the middle)?

Update: A reader (alias "Mac") has left these links for which I am very grateful. Now I need to track down this fresco. I'm assuming it is in a church? Any more leads?

I believe you will find the answer at this link (in German I think)
http://www.celtoslavica.de/imago/_Urschalling.html
And at another link in Hungarian:
http://www.freeweb.hu/aranylaci/jezus-harc/jezus-harc.htm

The Trinity:
The Holy Ghost as a Woman

Fresko, Urschalling, Oberbayern
Fresco, Urschalling, Upper Bavaria
12. Jh. / 12th c.


13 comments:

David said...

Haven't seen it. But the sexuality in the imagery is overwhelming. So the question for me is: what group would have used that type of imagery?

Peter M. Head said...

Are you sure it is a painting? Looks like the corner of a mosaic fitting around an arch. Presumably a church. Colour reminds me of something like Ravenna.

smijer said...

I would have guessed Jesus, Mary, and ... somebody - the Father, maybe. So - are you going to keep us guessing?

mac said...

I believe you will find the answer at this link (in German I think)
http://www.celtoslavica.de/imago/_Urschalling.html
And at another link in Hungarian:
http://www.freeweb.hu/aranylaci/jezus-harc/jezus-harc.htm

The Trinity:
The Holy Ghost as a Woman

Fresko, Urschalling, Oberbayern
Fresco, Urschalling, Upper Bavaria
12. Jh. / 12th c.

Jerome said...

That looks like a vulva, there in the middle?

David said...

If we are into idea generation, how about Jesus, John the Baptizer, and Magdalene?

mac said...

I believe I have found the Church and the artist name (thanks-Wikipedia). The Link:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urschalling

Translation from the German can be be obtained from Google.
A quote from the Translation of the Wikipedia page.

Quote "The curvature of the Chorjochs is a fresco that shows Abraham, which the three angels appear. This phenomenon suggests the medieval artist as Präfiguration the Holy Trinity. (The interpretation, are being made for a woman as the Holy Spirit represented by art historians now been refuted and is given the absurd context of Abraham). The frescoes, which many prominent female characters, have been middle of the 16th Century covered and appeared only in 1923 by chance again. Since they were expensive uncovered, restored and are now open for tours."

David said...

Amazing collection of images.

Even more amazing, the main post is aleady indexed by Google. That's fast!

April DeConick said...

"Mac" and David,

I can't seem to view the images. Do I need to be signed up for something to view them? I did find this link helpful. It looks like this is the church: St. Jakobus (James).

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St._Jakobus,_Urschalling

mac said...

For a Large image of St.Jakobus (800 600 pixel) try this link:

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:St._Jakobus,_Urschalling.jpg&filetimestamp=20081125164813

mac said...

One more try on the image LINK

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:St._Jakobus,_Urschalling.jpg&filetimestamp=20081125164813

David said...

How about trying from this page:

Image Library.

The image in question is under the Sophia category.

Shivalan said...

Not only is the third part of the Holy Trinity feminine, but there is a book, and may I be upfront and admit to being the publisher, that says that the Comforter to come, as promised by Jesus, is the Holy Spirit and indeed, that we are entering a third great age of spirituality, the age of God the Mother, the Holy Ghost. The book is thence called The Third Advent, by Grégoire de Kalbermatten.